Shaquille O'Neal eased down the steps from the TNT set outside of L.A. Live and headed to the green room for dinner after the NBA pregame show on the Bucks and Nets game and Lakers and Warriors at Staples Center, gathering his thoughts about LeBron James' place in NBA history.
As O'Neal walked and signed autographs Tuesday, he began his conversation by saying that if James passes Hall of Famer and Lakers legend Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and becomes the all-time leading scorer in NBA history, there would be no doubt that "LeBron is the best player - ever."
Yes, O'Neal thinks James would surpass the incomparable Michael Jordan, widely considered the best to ever play in the NBA and someone James holds in high regard.
"I know what he's doing," O'Neal said while eating some roast beef. "Championships are great, but he's trying to pass Kareem up. That's what he is doing. I know exactly what he's doing. Cause now if you pass Kareem up, it ain't no talk about who the best player ever is. Think about that? I saw he needed to average  points or something like that the next few years, which he will do. He can do that in two more years."
James began the season Tuesday night against Golden State ranked third in league history in scoring at 35,367 points behind Abdul-Jabbar (38,387) and Karl Malone (36,928).
James averaged 25 points last season and has averaged 27 points through 18 years in the NBA.
If James were to average at least 25 points over the next two seasons, he would pass Abdul-Jabbar sometime during the 2022-23 season, taking about 120 games to do so.
If James keeps that same average this season, he would move past Malone around the 62nd game.
James, who turns 37 in December, has won four titles, one with the Lakers in 2020.
"He's got four rings and he becomes the highest scorer in the NBA history. He's the best ever," O'Neal said. "Ain't nothing you can say.
"Cause if I would have passed Wilt [Chamberlain] in scoring, you know me. I would have been, 'I'm the most dominate ever.' I don't want to hear [Chamberlain's] name no more."
O'Neal, who is eighth all-time in scoring (28,596) behind seventh-placed Chamberlain (31,419), laughed.
James is signed with the Lakers for two more seasons, making $41.1 million this season and $44.4 million next season.
"I mean, that's what he is really trying to do," O'Neal said. "Ring No. 5 would be cool, but if he get's that leading scorer, the highest scorer ever in the league … I'd take that.
"He'd be No. 1," O'Neal continued. "He'd be the leading scorer. Me, I want to be the leading scorer in the league because now it ain't no conversation about who is the best ever in the league. Who is going to break it? Nobody."
In some ways, this reloaded Lakers team with James, Anthony Davis and Russell Westbrook reminds O'Neal of when he and Kobe Bryant were joined by Hall of Famers Malone and Gary Payton for the 2003-04 season, which ended in the NBA Finals with a loss to the Detroit Pistons.
But O'Neal is not ready to crown the 2021-22 Lakers team champions yet.
"I saw when they made the trade for Russ, but it wasn't like no, 'OOOO!'" O'Neal said. "Who are the main two guys? Is everybody else going to play their roles?"
O'Neal was reminded, the Lakers are now the Big Three with the addition of Westbrook.
"They still need role players, right?" O'Neal said. "I see Russ as a role player, a damned good one, but he's a role player. It's LeBron first, AD second and then Russ. He can get his stuff on the break."
This story originally appeared in Los Angeles Times.